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Author:  NoOp [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu

On 11/05/2009 10:18 AM, Walter Garcia-Fontes wrote:
....
Quote:
Nowadays when you arrive to www.ubuntu.com no mention to the LTS
version and it seems the only suggestion is to install 9.10.


They fixed the website:
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
but it still has issues; you need to click on:
Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows

Choose a version

Download Ubuntu 9.10
This is the latest version, released in October of 2009 and
maintained until 2011
Download Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
Released in April 2008 and maintained until April 2011 - ideal for
large deployments

Choose the architecture

32-bit version
This version is suitable for most computers
64-bit version
May provide additional capabilities for computers that are able to
use 64-bit software

Don't know why they decided to do a full website makeover at 9.10
time... but send comments to web feedback:
http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/contactus

Author:  Derek Broughton [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu

Clint Tinsley wrote:

Quote:
I asked, please, no flames. 9.04 worked great and I have been using
Gloria Mint 7 for several months now. Even Thunderbird is flaky in 9.10.
Ubuntu is suppose to be for everyone, not just techies and early adopters
who are willing to deal with all the problems. And most of all, it is
suppose to be stable, which it is not.

I beg to differ. It's the most stable it's been in 18 months, and it's
working for almost everybody. If you post such inflammatory statements, you
_will_ get flames.
--
derek

Author:  Derek Broughton [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu

anthony.rasat@gmail.com wrote:

Quote:
Clint Tinsley wrote:
I asked, please, no flames.

Don't worry, you ain't gonna get any.

?? I can't imagine why not. You post inflammatory attacks, you're sure to
get flames.
--
derek

Author:  dean [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu







Derek Broughton wrote:

Clint Tinsley wrote:



I asked, please, no flames.  9.04 worked great and I have been using
Gloria Mint 7 for several months now. Even Thunderbird is flaky in 9.10.
Ubuntu is suppose to be for everyone, not just techies and early adopters
who are willing to deal with all the problems. And most of all, it is
suppose to be stable, which it is not.



I beg to differ. It's the most stable it's been in 18 months, and it's
working for almost everybody. If you post such inflammatory statements, you
_will_ get flames.


Clint I agree, it has been amazingly stable for me. I am starting
to get sick of this release is crap, it doesn't do this, it doesn't do
that.  If you don't like it, don't use it.  After all this is a free
operation system and it is all about choice.




Author:  thomas [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu

Quote:
It's the most stable it's been in 18 months, and it's
working for almost everybody.

You are not being trufull in this statement. Version 9.04,
which was the first that I used, was much better. There
are too many problems to go into details again since so
many people have mentioned them in their postings. I
agree with the statement.


Quote:
Even Thunderbird is flaky in 9.10.

This is very true and is true for Firefox. In 9.04 both of
these tended to work with problems

Quote:
Ubuntu is suppose to be for everyone, not just techies
and early adopters

I was led to believe that Ubuntu was not just for techies or
for those who have the potential but lack the time or the
desire to be techies.

My decision to give up on Windows and go Ubuntu instead
of the MAC was due to money and the fact that I have a lot
of investment in Windows software which made it illogical
to buy a higher price (but much better) MAC computer to
just access the internet. I am using a Windows computer
that is not connected to the internet. I went this way after
a couple of bad incidents in which the "protection" apps
did not protect the computer and were disasters for me.

The final problem of using Windows that made me switch
might have been due to a buggy XP upgrade. It happen
around midnight a few months ago while I was looking at
books on Amazon.Com. I am sure that this was not due to
the Amazon site and I had not been to any sites (such as
porno) which would have sent me a trojan. Plus a lot of
other had such problems at the same time, including a
couple neighbors my age who would never be interested
in porn or other bad sites.

Author:  Douglas Pollard [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu

Ive had my 9.10 up and running an hour and been busy trying everything,
sweet as a honey bees Knees. There may be problems there but I
haven't found any yet.

Doug


thomas wrote:
Quote:
It's the most stable it's been in 18 months, and it's
working for almost everybody.

You are not being trufull in this statement. Version 9.04,
which was the first that I used, was much better. There
are too many problems to go into details again since so
many people have mentioned them in their postings. I
agree with the statement.


Even Thunderbird is flaky in 9.10.

This is very true and is true for Firefox. In 9.04 both of
these tended to work with problems

Ubuntu is suppose to be for everyone, not just techies
and early adopters

I was led to believe that Ubuntu was not just for techies or
for those who have the potential but lack the time or the
desire to be techies.

My decision to give up on Windows and go Ubuntu instead
of the MAC was due to money and the fact that I have a lot
of investment in Windows software which made it illogical
to buy a higher price (but much better) MAC computer to
just access the internet. I am using a Windows computer
that is not connected to the internet. I went this way after
a couple of bad incidents in which the "protection" apps
did not protect the computer and were disasters for me.

The final problem of using Windows that made me switch
might have been due to a buggy XP upgrade. It happen
around midnight a few months ago while I was looking at
books on Amazon.Com. I am sure that this was not due to
the Amazon site and I had not been to any sites (such as
porno) which would have sent me a trojan. Plus a lot of
other had such problems at the same time, including a
couple neighbors my age who would never be interested
in porn or other bad sites.


Author:  Rashkae [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu

thomas wrote:
Quote:
It's the most stable it's been in 18 months, and it's
working for almost everybody.

You are not being trufull in this statement. Version 9.04,
which was the first that I used, was much better. There
are too many problems to go into details again since so
many people have mentioned them in their postings. I
agree with the statement.


9.04 was a disaster by comparison. KDE updated to KDE4, before it was
ready by far, Amarok destroyed, god help you if you had an Intel graphic
chip and upgraded without taking the warning in release notes to heart..
Early adopters of ext4 having config files truncated to 0 bytes,
followed by a kernel that would lock up when you delete too many files
that wouldn't get patched for months; I could go on.

I love 9.04 personally, but subjectively, to say that 9.04 release was
'better' than 9.10 is a joke.

Author:  dean [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu







Rashkae wrote:

thomas wrote:


 > It's the most stable it's been in 18 months, and it's
Quote:
working for almost everybody.

You are not being trufull in this statement. Version 9.04,
which was the first that I used, was much better. There
are too many problems to go into details again since so
many people have mentioned them in their postings. I
agree with the statement.




9.04 was a disaster by comparison. KDE updated to KDE4, before it was
ready by far, Amarok destroyed, god help you if you had an Intel graphic
chip and upgraded without taking the warning in release notes to heart..
Early adopters of ext4 having config files truncated to 0 bytes,
followed by a kernel that would lock up when you delete too many files
that wouldn't get patched for months; I could go on.

I love 9.04 personally, but subjectively, to say that 9.04 release was
'better' than 9.10 is a joke.



http://laserjock.wordpress.com/2009/11/ ... u-release/



I rest my case :)




Author:  thomas [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu

I did not start out with the first release of 9.04. I had read about
it in Ubuntu magazine (or similar) and believed the glowing
review.

So, as has been stated by those who know about the earlier version
it got better. This is good because the folks working on it might be
able to solve most of the major problems that I am encountering. I
hope that it won't be long. I became addicted to the on-line radio
and old radio shows that I listened to.

Thomas

Rashkae wrote:

9.04 was a disaster by comparison. KDE updated to KDE4, before it was
ready by far, Amarok destroyed, god help you if you had an Intel graphic
chip and upgraded without taking the warning in release notes to heart..
Early adopters of ext4 having config files truncated to 0 bytes,
followed by a kernel that would lock up when you delete too many files
that wouldn't get patched for months; I could go on.

I love 9.04 personally, but subjectively, to say that 9.04 release was
'better' than 9.10 is a joke.

Author:  thomas [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 9.10 is a black eye for Ubuntu

dean wrote:
Quote:
Rashkae wrote:
thomas wrote:

It's the most stable it's been in 18 months, and it's
working for almost everybody.

You are not being trufull in this statement. Version 9.04,
which was the first that I used, was much better. There
are too many problems to go into details again since so
many people have mentioned them in their postings. I
agree with the statement.



9.04 was a disaster by comparison. KDE updated to KDE4, before it was
ready by far, Amarok destroyed, god help you if you had an Intel graphic
chip and upgraded without taking the warning in release notes to heart..
Early adopters of ext4 having config files truncated to 0 bytes,
followed by a kernel that would lock up when you delete too many files
that wouldn't get patched for months; I could go on.

I love 9.04 personally, but subjectively, to say that 9.04 release was
'better' than 9.10 is a joke.


http://laserjock.wordpress.com/2009/11/ ... u-release/

I rest my case :)
I see that I need to correct my posting. The corrected version of 9.04

was a lot
better than the first version of 9.10.

Thomas

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